and his brother, , know they might be an unlikely source for relationship advice, but they certainly give Us something to talk about.
The siblings answered more questions from their fan hotline during a bonus episode of their “New Heights” podcast, which dropped via Wondery+ on Thursday, November 14. Jason, 37, revealed the duo received “over 700 voicemails” from listeners eager for the Kelces’ expertise.
“As two very non-experts in relationships, we would love to offer our advice,” Jason teased.
Travis, 35, offered a different perspective. “But also two [people] very happy in relationships,” he said. (Travis is dating , while Jason shares three daughters with wife .)
Jason agreed. “That’s true,” he noted. “I shouldn’t say we’re not experts, we’re kinda killing it.”
The dynamic duo then launched into their advice for a single fan in her 30s hoping to find love in Philadelphia, which she referred to as “apparently the worst city to be single in.”
Despite opening her call with a “Go Birds,” as any Philly fan would, she voted against Eagles games being a good place to meet “nice, available” men. “Jason, you have that story of how you met Kylie for the first time and fell asleep at a bar,” she said. “Well, imagine that times, like, a thousand. Help a sister out.”
Travis wasted no time handing out suggestions. “You know, there’s a lot of guys at the delis. Go to the markets, go to a good sandwich spot,” he said. “You’re gonna find somebody that’s doing well for themselves, getting themselves a good ol’ meal.”
The tight end also pointed to the Jersey Shore as an option. “The Shore is full of 30-year-olds that are looking for love,” he added. “That was Jason at one time. Maybe not 30 years old, but he was looking for love.”
Not on Travis’ list were clubs and bars, but Jason wisely stated that “it depends” on where you go. Travis’ main takeaway was simply getting out of the house.
“Go to birthday parties, go to weddings. Go to events,” he said. “Get out of the f—ing house, that’s how you find ’em. Or you just go on Tinder and find your match like Jason did.”
Travis also encouraged the caller not to “buy into” the city’s less-than-stellar reputation for finding love. “The more you buy into it, the more your mind is gonna make you feel like there’s failure in finding it,” he added. “Don’t buy into that s—.”
Jason chimed in with the age-old belief that love comes unexpectedly. “You gotta not look for it,” he claimed. “That’s how love works. When you’re looking for it, you’re psyching yourself out. … Mates can feel that.”
The former Eagles center also suggested going “to things that you genuinely like doing and places you genuinely like going” because it’ll be easier to find someone with shared interests. When Travis said to “start thinking like men,” however, Jason wasn’t so sure.
“What is your love language?” Jason wondered. “If your love language is gifts and you know you’re gonna want somebody that has a lot of money, go to the club and stay in the VIP section. If you really like acts of service, go to Lowe’s [and] find somebody that’s very hands-on, very engaged. … If your love language is words of affirmation, I don’t really know where to tell you to go for that.”
For Jason, the most important step to finding love is to keep doing what you already enjoy. “You’re gonna find people that you end up liking,” he said. “And usually when you find people that you like, sometimes you find people that you love. And then sometimes when you find people that you love, you find out that you wanna be in a relationship with them. And when you find people you wanna be in a relationship [with], you find out you wanna marry them sometimes. And when you find out you wanna marry them sometimes, you find out you wanna have kids sometimes. Or not.”
He teased, “And then sometimes when you have kids, you find out that you didn’t want kids.”
Travis laughed before drawing the line, joking, “Don’t you talk about my nieces like that. Don’t you take it that far.”